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So I figured out my ammonia problem...

2.8K views 15 replies 11 participants last post by  ThatGuyWithTheFish  
#1 ·
...it's from my tap water! It's at 1.0 ppm. So, can I use API Ammo-Lock? I don't like prime because it smells, but does Ammo-Lock work in the same way? Will it still show up on the API ammonia test after adding?

Also, would 0.25-0.50 ppm of ammonia be enough to instantly kill an amano?
 
#6 ·
That's true. I did not treat the water. I'll try again.

Why not hold your breath for a few seconds while using Prime?

Seems worth suffering for a second or two in order to use a product that works in a situation like that.
It smells even when it's closed and put away somewhere. Why should I have to deal with that if there are other products that work just as well? Plus, I don't like that Prime doesn't have a slime coat part to it.


So does anyone here have experience with Ammo-Lock?
 
#5 ·
You might want to find out how much the Ammo Lock will detoxify. Even Prime only detoxifies up to 1 ppm of ammonia. Is the tank cycled? If so the bacteria should eat through that ammonia fairly quickly; the dechlorinator will help protect the fish in the meantime. You might also want to do 2-3 smaller water changes per week (assuming the tank is cycled) rather than one large one to control the amount of ammonia that goes into the tank at one time.
 
#9 ·
You might want to find out how much the Ammo Lock will detoxify. Even Prime only detoxifies up to 1 ppm of ammonia.
Read the bottle that is incorrect. Prime will detox as much ammonia that is present you just need to dose more as per the directions.

It smells even when it's closed and put away somewhere. Why should I have to deal with that if there are other products that work just as well? Plus, I don't like that Prime doesn't have a slime coat part to it.
LOL it does not smell that bad, I use safe and and my wife and daughters do not complain about the smell. If you want to spend more money on a prodect that will treat much less water go for it. Also prime does have a slime coat stimulant just not crap like aloe.
 
#8 ·
If you didn't use a water conditioner before testing the water then that is kind of odd. Typically with chloramines the water conditioner breaks the chlorine/ammonia bond, leaving the ammonia free in the water and causing a reading on the test. I wouldn't think that untreated water would show such a high ammonia reading.
 
#11 ·
If you didn't use a water conditioner before testing the water then that is kind of odd. Typically with chloramines the water conditioner breaks the chlorine/ammonia bond, leaving the ammonia free in the water and causing a reading on the test. I wouldn't think that untreated water would show such a high ammonia reading.
Well, I tested treated water and got 0 ppm so...

LOL it does not smell that bad, I use safe and and my wife and daughters do not complain about the smell. If you want to spend more money on a prodect that will treat much less water go for it. Also prime does have a slime coat stimulant just not crap like aloe.
I don't appreciate your mocking tone.

My ex bf could smell it with the lid closed, but it wasn't enough to force us to keep it in a cabinet even. You must have a crazy sense of smell. I feel for you. I was like that when pregnant. It was no fun.
I don't think so. It just smells bad! Not something I want to keep in my house.
 
#12 ·
I have previously used API- AMO- LOCK with my aquarium and i use the API liquid testers. It gives false readings of ammonia saying you have 8ppm but you may actually have 0.25ppm.
I get what you mean about the smell of prime , im allergic to it so i cant use it without gloves and careful handling so i tend not to store it aha. The api stress coat removes the chlorines and chlorimes and i have found it can reduce ammonia in the tank.
 
#13 ·
I dont think anyone had a mocking tone.. but its true, it really doesnt smell THAT bad.

Honestly I wouldnt use anything but Prime. It does smell, and I dont like it either, but I deal with it. Just like I dont like that Flourish is green and stains my fingers if I touch it by accident. I just deal with it. You can use AmmoLock but I dont think it gives you the same result.
 
#15 ·
The main question might be why you are having to deal with ammonia at all. If this is a tank which is stable and fully cycled, there should only be a bit of ammonia reading as you are doing the water change and nothing to worry about as the bacteria will deal with it as needed. Something is not right with the testing on timing or something. A normal tank, running as it should, should not be showing ammonia as the bacteria will have just grown a larger colony to meet the larger amount of ammonia available.

When we do a fishless cycle, we pour ammonia straight into the tank and wait for the bacteria to grow large enough to deal with straight ammonia poured in. The small amount that comes in through the tap will be no problem for a colony to deal if they are not being killed in some way.

Is there a possible misreading of the colors on the test? Sometimes when we look really hard for a problem we see things that mess with our minds.
 
#16 ·
The main question might be why you are having to deal with ammonia at all. If this is a tank which is stable and fully cycled, there should only be a bit of ammonia reading as you are doing the water change and nothing to worry about as the bacteria will deal with it as needed. Something is not right with the testing on timing or something. A normal tank, running as it should, should not be showing ammonia as the bacteria will have just grown a larger colony to meet the larger amount of ammonia available.

When we do a fishless cycle, we pour ammonia straight into the tank and wait for the bacteria to grow large enough to deal with straight ammonia poured in. The small amount that comes in through the tap will be no problem for a colony to deal if they are not being killed in some way.

Is there a possible misreading of the colors on the test? Sometimes when we look really hard for a problem we see things that mess with our minds.
No, I'm not. I've tested multiple times. And yes, my test solutions are off. 0.0ppm looks like between 0.0 and 0.25. I read 0.50.

There are two reasons. Aquasoil and lack of flow. My Cascade 100 literally drips out. My diffuser provides more flow than it. Seriously, I'm never buying Cascade HoBs again. I can move my filter to the tank, but I don't want to leave the other one filterless and I don't want to risk loosing the fish to ammonia.